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Will the Senate allow Trump to make recess appointments of any of his nominees for cabinet or other executive branch positions?

Last Monday, we discussed this as a possible topic for the next meeting on 25 November. As it happens, a couple of recent E-Mail messages from Richard Cohen addressed this topic. Rick is a retired New Jersey state appellate court judge who now lives on MDI and has led numerous Acadia Senior College classes on Contitutional issues.

Rick’s most recent E-Mail messages dealt with the legal basis for recess appointments.

Here’s the text of the first of those E-Mail messages:

Dear All,         

Two short ones today. [I’ve omitted the first part of the E-Mail message, which deals with an unrelated issue.]

The other quickie for today is the matter of recess appointments. Ordinarily the scheduling of legislative recesses is up to the houses of Congress (possibly their favorite subject), and rarely presents problems resulting from disagreements. The media speculate, probably accurately, that the new administration is going to try to seat its controversial appointees without hazarding the Senate’s advice and consent process, by making recess appointments.  Recess appointments are good until the end of the current congressional session. So, if Trump makes recess appointments on January 20, 2025, they are good until January 3, 2027.         

Aticle I, Sec. 5, of the Constitution says, “Neither house, during the session of congress, shall, without the consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, .   .   .”  I’m not sure what evil that provision was intended to avoid, but both houses have adopted the dodge of leaving town for more than three days, leaving a junior member to show up in the Capitol in the morning to open a work day, all by himself, noting a lack of a forum, moving to adjourn for two days, and presumably voting for his own motion.  All this has been taken traditionally to avoid the Sec. 5 recess provision.


But wait, there’s more!  Article II, Sec. 3, describes a few of the powers of the president.  It includes the following unfamiliar provision: “he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both houses, or either of them, and, in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper;  .  .  .” If these two clauses are connected, then they apply only to an extraordinary session called by the president.  However, I am afraid this word salad may be held to cover two independent subjects, and will be read to say that, if one of the houses wants to adjourn and the other does not, the president can adjourn them both for as long as he “thinks proper”. The GOP will control both houses after January 3, so, if one of them decides to adjourn and the other says no (and that can certainly be arranged in the offices of Project 2025), Trump will, on January 20, adjourn them both “sine die”, and then appoint everybody.

I haven’t yet done any real study of this provision, either textually or historically, but neither has anyone else I have access electronic to. So keep tuned. This could be major litigation that lands in SCOTUS. It could be a “political question” that the Court won’t touch with a long stick. It could result in a presidential clown car with padded walls.                          

Rick

And here’s a follow-up from Rick:

After sending the email a few minutes ago, I found the following:     

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C3-1/ALDE_00001144/
It does not sound promising at all.       
                          Rick

Of course, Rick’s discussion doesn’t address the politics affecting the Senate’s decision about whether to allow recess appointments, or whether Trump will appoint some of his nominees as “acting”, in order to avoid the political uncertainties of the Senate confirmation process and the political and legal uncertainties of recess appointments. “Acting” appointments, however, raise other uncertainties, including the extent of an acting appointee’s decision-making authority.

Unfortunately, I won’t be able to join next Monday’s meeting since I have a long-standing prior committment.

Nov. 18: Election Debrief

As a reminder, the library is closed on November 11 (Veteran’s Day). On November 18, we’ll take up the topic as agreed last week…the day before the election: an election debrief.

At the time, we thought we’d be discussing a flurry of litigation over who had won a close race for president—I guess that won’t take too much time. Instead, we can discuss some (or all) of the following:

Democrats

  • Why did Kamala Harris lose/what would have had to happen for her to win?
  • Have Democrats stopped listening to working class Americans as David Brooks suggests?
  • What lesson will Democrats take from the election overall:
    • Move firmly toward the working class (go to center)?
    • Double-down on progressive initiatives (go to left)?
    • “Steady as she goes” (perhaps this election was an anomaly and the overall platform is solid)?
  • To what degree will they support Republican initiatives on key voter issues (such as immigration)?

Republicans

  • To what degree will Trump’s actions be more moderate than his rhetoric?
  • To what degree will congressional Republicans push back on the Administration’s most aggressive initiatives?
  • How will Republicans manage high public expectations in light of the likely “tri-fecta” (Presidency plus a majority of both houses of Congress)? [Maybe a “quad-fecta” with a conservative majority on the Supreme Court as well.]
    • Will the Senate filibuster fall (or be constrained to narrower voting subjects)?

9/23/24: Ukraine (again) and Maybe China

For Monday, we’ll revisit U.S. support for Ukraine in the context of recent developments. In particular, we’ll start with the following two questions:

  • Should the U.S. authorize the use of Western-supplied weapons against military targets in Russian territory without limit? If not, what limits seem reasonable and appropriate under the circumstances?
  • Should the U.S. and its Western allies provide “frozen” Russian assets (bank deposits) to Ukraine to help that country finance its war effort?

If we move to China, we might discuss:

  • What lessons do we think China will take away from the U.S.’ support for Ukraine v. Russia in recent years? Are these the lessons we want them to “learn?” What, if anything, should we be doing differently vis-a-vis Ukraine to send China the signals we want?
  • China and the Philippines have been skirmishing at an increasing rate in the South China Sea over the past few months. What should U.S. policy be with respect to these skirmishes? Stand by and watch? Express displeasure through diplomatic means? Provide tangible non-military support to the Philippines? Provide military support (like by moving some Navy vessels into the “hot zone”)?

And I’m sure we’ll find more to discuss along the way. See you Monday.

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